Sunday, December 16, 2007

The Grass Is Always Greener?


hey there!

just found your blog this week - and i'm enjoying catching up on reading your past posts!

here's my situation (and pleaaaaaaase keep my name confidential - especially the surname!)

i have a great BF, who moved in 6 months ago. But the long-term goals/values aren't meshing. Trouble is: he's my FIRST guy to ever treat me with respect, equality, etc. He is the ideal husband/father/long-term partner. Except that he wants the life-in-the-suburbs while I'm more a discover-the-world kind of gal. Plus I have a dear friend (who I dated previously) who I recently saw after a 1 year absence. And we agreed we would like to date each other. No promises, no unrealistic expectations. But we have similar lifestyle/goals.

HELP! I know this falls under the category of "tough decisions" and I'm definitely a woman-who-doesn't-need-a-man. Right now I'm 98% sure I've gotta break the hard news to the nice BF. But a bit of advice from a dating-veteran is always welcome!

thanks a million,
T

First off, I have to majorly disagree with you on one thing - and I kinda learned this the hard way: unless you're a lesbian, every woman needs a man...maybe not to pay your bills, support you financially, or even do some of those "manly" things, but there is always a point where a heterosexual woman needs the companionship and energy that only a man can provide. I must admit I'm not too happy with their gender right now, but we women have to stop with the "I don't need 'em" attitude.

So now to your problem at hand...I don't think happy, fulfilled people entertain "possibilities" conversation with their "dear friends". There was something missing in your relationship that allowed this conversation to happen with the dear friend who you dated.

Some people will tell you that it's ok to date someone you're not compatible with, and that the fire will come later..I'm not into fungus relationships. I think you should start with what you want and that you can have a dude who's nice AND who you're compatible with. At the same time, I don't think you have to be completely compatible with a dude to see long-term possibility. You said he'd be the ideal father, husband, etc., so obviously you're compatible enough to want to have a lifetime bond with him. If he's compatible enough for forever, then things like travel the world vs. stay in the suburbs can be compromises you work on.

But say you decide that Mr. Nice BF is not the one for you, that should be a decision that you come to independently, not after having a discussion with your dear friend who you dated. And might I add that despite how dear he is, you stopped dating him for a reason. I dunno what that reason is, but funny enough you don't mention anything about Dear Friend being good long-term. And even though you dated him, you still say Mr. Nice BF is the first guy to treat you with respect and equality.

My take: seems like you're basing your decision to dump Nice BF based on conversation with Dear Friend. I don't think it's fair to NBF. Make a list of the must-haves in a relationship, and the compromisable (I just made that up) stuff and base your decision to be with NBF on that. Either way, don't get into anything with Dear Friend anytime soon. You went there before and it didn't work, and frankly, I don't think a year is enough time for anyone to change that dramatically unless it's all superficial stuff like bigger boobs, face lift, etc.

You see this goat in the picture? Funny thing, the grass inside the pen is actually greener, but the goat is still tryna break his neck to get at that outside grass.

Don't be like the goat...

P.S. If you still decide to break up with Nice BF, you might wanna read this first.

9 Comments:

At December 17, 2007 12:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the great commentary and advice.

To clarify: the dear friend and I didn't pursue anything because of geography. But it's definitely true that I don't want to go for the greener grass. I'm not planning on being in ANY relationship if I leave my current BF. But I do think that the conversation with my dear friend nudged me out of my complacency with the current relationship which isn't meshing well.

BF and I had a long talk about it today (something which he will rarely do.) He is willing to work on being more emotionally available, but he did tell me I'd be sorry someday if I left him....

Well, thanks for the advice. I'm going away for a 2 week Christmas trip - should provide lots of time for thinking about grassy pastures on both sides of the fence.

 
At December 17, 2007 12:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey SE, i really like this post, some people just dont know what they have until its gone...
she is willing to throw away 90% for an unsure 10%....we women sometimes just dont think....i made that mistake once already, i guess this is hers to make because until then she probably wont learn.
i wish her luck.

 
At December 18, 2007 11:11 AM, Blogger Crankyputz said...

lol, these are real people???

keep the current BF, repeats of past mistakes never work out...

 
At December 18, 2007 1:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not tryin to be harsh but this girl makes no sense. She’s no goat… she’s borderline chicken.

Quick recap: Her great boyfriend is the ideal husband, father, and long-term partner. She even went so far as to let him move in. He is the FIRST (?) guy to treat her with respect and equality and all that etcetera stuff.

So how does she reduce her situation to a lack of meshing? How can someone identify someone as the ideal, as being great, and then boil it down to life-in-the-suburbs VS. discover-the-world? WTF does that even mean? And WTF does this “dear friend” have to do with shit?? Someone in a live-in situation typically is not having conversations with an ex that involves mutual agreement about dating each other. Again, WTF? This girl has not figured out what respect or equality really mean. I’m just crackin up at her lifestyles/goals façade. It aint about that. Her question demonstrates she hasn’t really figured out her own lifestyle or goals. And now somehow her dilemma has moved into the emotional availability arena. I'm callin BS on this cuz she's really in the toilet but can't smell the.... (okay, you get the point)

I’m a lady and don’t usually feel sorry for the guys cuz general pity situations are rarely called for. But, damn… this poor guy is getting worked. Sounds like he’s about to have the rug pulled out from under him. Literally. They live together and I suspect she aint the one that’s gonna have to move. I'm sending psychic messages his way screaming "DUMP HER QUICK LIKE!!!!!"

 
At December 18, 2007 5:22 PM, Blogger IrieDiva said...

while i'm not feeling quite as graphic about the situation i'ma go with nickname on this one. the family guys always end up with a girl that really doesnt want that then a girl like me end up with a dude who wants to be a player or something...

sigh, i dont think you should stay with him though. you'll only be wasting a man that girls like me want...set him back in the pool for us :)

no seriously you guys can tell that she is kinda bored in this situation so don't stay with dude just cus it may seem like the right thing to do...

 
At December 18, 2007 8:44 PM, Blogger SimplEnigma said...

@T, I think talking is the first step, but it may just be a bandaid if you are really unhappy with how things stand. Even if he tries to change (and I believe people rarely ever do change), he will just be doing it to keep you and may end up resenting you in the future. I think you really have to accept people for who they are and compromise on smaller stuff.

Damn, Nickname...tell us how you really feel.

Yes, CP these are real people...see she has responded and clarified? I dunno why yall think I make this stuff up. LOL.

I think I'm with IrieDiva on this...I don't think she should stay with him, just because he's a nice guy who treats her well. T knows in her heart what she wants to do already - I think she's looking for someone to talk her out of it. But like IrieDiva says, she should let him go so he can find someone who will give him all the things he's looking for.

 
At December 18, 2007 9:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, great feedback! YES, I am very real. One real girl trying to make her way in the world.

Between advice here, from my (very wise) mother, and some soul searching, I've decided that my conversation with my 'dear friend' was really about having an exit-option more than anything. I have some serious apprehensions about making a serious commitment. I know, I know, a girl with commitment issues? Let me just say that 'it's complicated' and it's an issue I'm working to resolve. I'm determined to turn towards my BF rather than away from him. I know what a fabulous guy he is. I just want to be sure that we can support each other in pursuing our dreams.

As for my friend, I've decided it isn't a good idea to keep him in my life. He is also a great guy, but very unlike the BF in life-philosophy. So, talking about our past together (and a possible future) was more about imagining a different sort of life than anything else.

Once again, thanks for the advice. You all really helped me see that I need to appreciate the BF (and I do!). I don't know what the future will bring, but I do know that we will try to keep moving forward....hopefully together.

 
At December 20, 2007 5:12 PM, Blogger Adrian said...

Where is the problem?

She should leave her current BF so someone else who deserves him can be happy.

 
At May 25, 2008 11:44 AM, Blogger QueenBea's sushi chronicles said...

interesting post with some good advice.

 

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